•   10 months ago

"Upshot" didn't follow the rules

Here are the rules:

"The application you or your team submits must:
...
• have been developed solely as part of this Hackathon"

Here is "Upshot", the winning project being presented well before the Hackathon was even announced:
http://www.meetup.com/Salesforce-com-Integration-Analytics/events/136920332/

How is this fair or legit?

  • 16 comments

  •   •   10 months ago

    This is straight out WRONG:

    Participants may begin forming their teams and working on their entry (each, an “Entry” and, together, the “Entries”) as early as October 25, 2013.

    And from OCTOBER 8

    Thomas Kim, CTO & Founder, UPSHOT
    Formerly an engineer at Salesforce for 9 years. Lead engineer on Salesforce Analytics. Tech lead for Custom Report Types and many other reporting features. Currently CTO of UPSHOT. We are using NLP and Machine Learning to create a radically simplified way to query and explore your data.

    Creating even simple reports in Salesforce is a complex task. Even experienced users have difficulty creating reports with outer joins, exception reports, etc. Our product UPSHOT lets you query Salesforce data in a simpler and more accessible interface.

  •   •   9 months ago

    The actual link to the October 8 MeetUp where he demoed it:

    http://www.meetup.com/Salesforce-com-Integration-Analytics/events/136920332/

    "Thomas Kim, CTO & Founder, UPSHOT
    Formerly an engineer at Salesforce for 9 years. Lead engineer on Salesforce Analytics. Tech lead for Custom Report Types and many other reporting features. Currently CTO of UPSHOT. We are using NLP and Machine Learning to create a radically simplified way to query and explore your data.

    Creating even simple reports in Salesforce is a complex task. Even experienced users have difficulty creating reports with outer joins, exception reports, etc. Our product UPSHOT lets you query Salesforce data in a simpler and more accessible interface. Users who have never created a report in Salesforce before can use our interface immediately with no training. Our goal is to enable every user in your organization to ask data questions without having to learn SQL or a complicated tool. We're currently seeking users to participate in a private beta of our product. Check out our Beta Program Questionnaire "

  •   •   9 months ago

    They just started giving more money to the runner ups. I think we have to keep the pressure up to make this thing legit. The last laugh will be on me if upshot gets DQ'd and my counterpart in the competition get's a million dollars :) But it's for a good cause.

  •   •   9 months ago

    This is shocking that (a) Upshot guys (Turian, you are better than this!) thought they were eligible and (b) they aren't disqualified immediately and (c) **no one from Salesforce seems to care about their own rules or the spirit of a hackathon**.

    The whole point of a hackathon is that you do the work there. If you don't want that kind of hackathon, fine, but don't have rules telling the rest of us that we should do that.

    It is disturbing that Salesforce thinks this will just go away... I guess we should have started coding our app last summer and demo'd on Oct 8th at an event at Salesforce to get feedback if we wanted to compete.

  •   •   9 months ago

    I agree. I say we can't let this go. Or the space will get meaningless. You'll see companies entering apps. You versus snapchat. Keep it clean and fair. Spread to anyone you know was there. And if they have analytics on what happened during review tweet to #dfnolaunch

  •   •   9 months ago

    You can also add your voice to Salesforce's own developer forums: http://boards.developerforce.com/t5/Salesforce-1-Million-Hackathon/bd-p/dfHackathon

  •   •   9 months ago

    Please send me your email address... our attorney is going to make sure Salesforce has to respond to this blatant violation of their own rules. See, considering the copious amount of US laws regarding giveaways, Salesforce has certain legal obligations to follow those rules.

    legal@ark.com

  •   •   9 months ago

    Sure. I'll mail over.

  •   •   9 months ago

    we noticed our app was not even downloaded or looked at! something is not right here.

  •   •   9 months ago

    If you can rope in the observations from anyone else you know, that would be really great. I'm trying to put a picture together of what they actually did

  •   •   9 months ago

    Unbelievable, guys. The info that we pieced together is now bringing information to light. From adweek: http://www.adweek.com/news/technology/winner-salesforces-hackathon-under-fire-154077

  •   •   9 months ago

    Hi guys,

    I just created a listly with the purpose of listing all the apps developed at the Salesforce Hackathon. Please post yours and let the web decide the winner. Just for the glory :-)

    http://list.ly/list/BOb-salesforce-1m-hackathon-the-real-winner

  •   •   9 months ago

    Hi guys,

    I just created a listly with the purpose of listing all the apps developed at the Salesforce Hackathon. Please post yours and let the web decide the winner. Just for the glory :-)

    http://list.ly/list/BOb-salesforce-1m-hackathon-the-real-winner

  •   •   9 months ago

    I had an idea pontschek. What if we found a new sponsor who would host the actual judging openly. Everyone who participated gets transferred. And we build it off the list. Google. Or Microsoft

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